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How to Sell Copper Pennies

How to Sell Copper Pennies


 

We get many inquiries and requests for information on how to sell copper pennies. What we will not do is give away our operational procedures. What we will do is give bits and pieces of advice that may help you decide if selling copper pennies is right for you.

After all, how to do something first stems from if you should do something.

Ever heard of ‘Location, Location, Location’ in terms of real estate? For copper pennies, it is:

‘Price, Price, Price’

If you aren’t sure about pricing, it may be very advantageous to search copper penny auctions and pricing via Ebay. Here is a link to a page on our site with listings which will open a new window in your browser:
 

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Ebay Copper Penny Auctions

 
 

Now that you have an idea of pricing possibilities, you simply have to note and accept the following:
 
 

Copper pennies are simply not a flat rate. The pricing is sporadic from lows and highs that can yield vast benefits to buyers and sellers if the timing is correct in their favor. Yes, in general, prices are on the rise, however, just like in the metals industry, the price will change with market supply and demand fluctuations.

As a seller, it is critical to remember how pricing and turnover work. Just like in a normal market situation, a seller can simply hold onto their product to wait for higher pricing during fluctuations in pricing. Though this means that the seller is also holding the risk of an opportunity cost loss to already have sold the copper pennies at a lower price to sell more quickly for faster turnover.

This all probably seems quite obvious. But it’s easy to get wrapped up in the idea of something without careful consideration to the risk. Getting involved in selling copper pennies means careful consideration to risk versus reward as far as sell quickly lower price vs seller slower higher price.

The decision is ultimately up to you. Just remember that the last person standing with copper pennies when the penny is eventually eliminated will be the one to gain the most benefit. If your profits now offset that risk of holding for later, sell sell sell. If your ability to sell is not yielding the profits you desire, it may be time to consider holding for a longer time.

Finding yourself torn between selling or holding copper pennies? When in doubt, do both! There’s absolutely no harm (in fact, it’s quite brilliant) to sell copper pennies and convert your profits into holdings.

President Barack Obama on Eliminating Penny 2013

President Barack Obama on
Eliminating Penny 2013


 
 

 
 
Pennies

Obama 2013 Exert Transcript on
the One-Cent Coin:

 
 

“I don’t know.”

“It’s one of those things where I think people get attached emotionally to the way things have been,” the president said. “We remember our piggy banks and counting out all the pennies and then taking them and getting a dollar bill or a couple of dollars.”

“This is not going to be a huge savings for government. But anytime we’re spending more money on something that people don’t actually use, that’s an example of something we should probably change,” Obama said. “One of the things that you see chronically in government is it’s very hard to get rid of things that don’t work so that we can then invest in the things that do.”

 

- Barack Obama, 44th President of the United States
 

Opinion on Obama’s Penny Speech 2013

 

Let’s be blunt. Eliminating the penny means admitting that inflation has run rampant and the one-cent, is, essentially and literally, worthless.

The penny is, however, money. Remember that it is still a legal form of currency. So when money becomes worthless, it is an admitting there is a problem with the money system.

Meanwhile, Obama and Bernanke are printing unlimited amounts of money. Buying up bonds and other various things to attempt to stimulate the economy. Eliminating the penny would bring attention to rampant inflation currently going on under Obama’s administration.

This would be a big ‘No No” to do. Therefore, side-stepping the issue is the politically motivated thing to do. And exactly what happened.

In fact, it is important to note that while this article may single out both Obama and Bernanke, this isn’t a political party issue. This is a United States political issue. Meaning, the policies from the mainstream political wings on both sides are manipulated by the financial institutions and their benefactors (think Federal Reserve is neither Federal or a Reserve). This has been going on since the inception of the latest Federal Reserve in the United States one hundred years ago.

Penny Nickel Composition Change Findings

Penny Nickel Composition Change Findings


 

 
Pennies

The Coin Modernization Act of 2010 has officially announced their findings. So what is the answer?

‘We need more time.’

No news is the absolute best news as it means that we all have a lot more time to capitalize on pennies and nickels before the Government takes them in themselves.

Most intriguing is the part on the one-cent coin:

 

“At Present, changes to the metals formulation of the one-cent coin would not yield significant cost improvements over the current formulation because the current market price of zinc is competitive with the prices of the credible alternatives, steel and aluminum.”
 
 

What solution does this leave? Elimination of the one-cent as the only viable solution.

Buy pennies and buy nickels while you can. If supply drops to zero from a coin denomination elimination, whether you’re a bullion investor or a numismatic coin collector, prices inevitably must go up.

 

Read the Official US Mint News Page for the Coin Modernization Act of 2010 Findings: Official US Mint News Page for the Coin Modernization Act of 2010 Findings
 

Read the Official Government PDF file for the Coin Modernization Act of 2010 Findings: Coin Modernization Act 2010 Report and Findings

Coin Modernization Act 2010 Reports 2012

Coin Modernization Act 2010 Reports 2012


 

 
Pennies
A friendly reminder that the Coin Modernization Act 2010 is to report its findings mid-December 2012. That means, any day now, we could get the update on whether the penny is being eliminated or having a metal composition change. This also goes for the nickel being eliminated or having a change in metal composition.

Most likely, any change in metal composition would be a change to steel. Right now, pennies are made of 97.5% zinc and 2.5% copper. Nickels are 75% copper and 25% nickel. Each costs more than twice its face value to mint.


The Coin Modernization Act of 2010 itself was passed on December 14th, 2010 and was enacted to:
 
 

‘provide research and development authority for alternative coinage materials to the Secretary of the Treasury, increase congressional oversight over coin production, and ensure the continuity of certain numismatic items’”

 
 

Since its inception, there are many rumors floating around of trials of new compositions for both the penny and nickel, particularly steel. Taking a look at Canada, one can see the penny was made of steel in Canada by the Royal Canadian Mint, and actually eliminated as of this year, 2012.

The Canadian nickel is currently made of a metal composition of 94.5% steel, 3.5% copper, and 2% nickel plating coming in at a weight of 3.95 grams.

So what happens next? Only time will tell. But one thing is certain.

History repeats. The price to buy pennies sky rocketed as soon as the announcement of the Canadian penny elimination came out. Will it happen again in the United States? Perhaps the impending “fiscal cliff” talks will push the change or elimination of the penny and nickel right over the edge. After all, the cost to make the penny is 2.41 cents.

Hindsight may be 20 – 20. But we can all conclude that buying pennies and nickels now creates huge potential gains for you with their respective face value to fall back on.

Buy pennies and buy nickels while you can. If supply drops to zero from a coin denomination elimination, whether you’re a bullion investor or a numismatic coin collector, prices inevitably must go up.

 

Read the Official Government PDF file for the Coin Modernization Act of 2010: Coin Modernization Act 2010

Selling Melted Copper Pennies as Copper Scrap

Selling Melted Copper Pennies as Copper Scrap


 

Do. Not. Do. It.

It is illegal to melt copper pennies in the United States. It is also illegal to export them out of the country. We have received a number of requests asking us how to melt copper pennies. This concerns us greatly as when learning and educating about copper pennies, it is important to do so under the guidelines set forth by the laws that govern us.

We believe in freedom and rights of all people. We believe you own your investments and your wealth. However, a crime is a crime. It is currently illegal to melt pennies (and nickels for that matter). So please don’t do it.

Need links to the laws? Visit our U.S. Penny Legislation link below:
 

U.S. Penny Legislation

 

The Three Multi-Values of Pennies

The Three Multi-Values of Pennies


 

 
 
 
 

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Intrinsic Value

 

Currency Value

 

Numismatic (Collector) Value

Intrinsic Value

 

All forms of currencies have intrinsic value. This means the actual physical monetary value of the item itself. A penny is made of metal. Therefore, it has metal value based on the metal content. For example, a copper penny is made of 95% copper 5% zinc and weighs approximately 3.11 grams.

This means a copper penny holds 2.9545 grams of copper and 0.1555 grams of zinc. Of course, wear and tear as well as various anomalies can change this figure. But the point to make is that this is a physical tangible value associated with the penny.
 
 

Currency Value

 

A penny also holds a currency value. This value is one-cent or 0.01 of a dollar. The purpose of this value is its trade value and use in a marketplace as a medium of exchange in place of a barter economy. A currency value is very subjective in a global marketplace when incorporating exchange rates and other factors.

Pile of Copper Penny Bags It is good to note that currencies like the dollar are heavily devalued due to mass printings of more money into the money system. This means the intrinsic value bolsters compared to the currency value from the impact of inflation.
 
 

Numismatic (Collector) Value

Finally, a penny holds coin collector numismatic value. This often has to do with rarities of coins, makes, quantity of units produced, models, years, various errors, and other factors.

 
 

Penny Value Conclusions

 

What’s the point? Simple. You can convert these three value terms into three different values:

  • Intrinsic = Investment Value

  • Currency = Back up Value

  • Numismatic (Collector) = Supply & Demand Value

     
     

    Metals are useful to society, and have a historic proof of keeping up with inflation at a minimum, often outpacing inflation. What does this mean? Your pennies are devaluing from inflation because of their face value but increasing in value because their metal value is not decreasing with inflation. While everyone else keeps their money in the digital world of banking, you are holding physical value that is increasing at a faster pace than money sitting in a zero percent-to-low-percent interest bank account.

    Worst case scenario, you still have currency value to fall back on as a back up plan. If the metal value breaks historical statistics and turns the other way around, you still have a currency value, proving that unlike a bet in the stock market, your pennies won’t reach a value of zero.

    Finally, pennies will be eliminated from circulation at some point. Every country has done it but the United States. Therefore, once it happens, the total quantity of pennies in circulation will drastically be reduced. Demand, however, for coin collectors will almost certainly stay the same. As a result: Supply drops. Demand holds steady. Value goes up.

    That sums up the three multi-values of the pennies. Thoughts? Feel welcome to leave a comment below.

  • Buy Canadian Copper Pennies – Before it’s too late!

    Buy Canadian Copper Pennies

    Before it’s too late!


     

    Canadian Copper Pennies

     
     

    Canadian penny stockpilers have huge advantages over others for their stockpiling of Canadian copper pennies. Why? Because Canadian copper pennies yield a higher copper value than their face value – over 2x as much! – and Canada has officially announced they are eliminating the penny as an ongoing form of currency in Canada (Read more: Canada Eliminates Penny).

    Why is this a big deal? Because a $50 face value (as of the date of this article) holds a weight of approximately 34 pounds and is worth in copper value $120. Every Canadian copper penny holds a value of about 2.4 cents each in copper.

    Here’s the catch. It is still illegal to melt the Canadian copper pennies. Why? Because the Royal Canadian Mint is pulling copper pennies out of circulation. Their hope is Canadians holding onto their pennies will deposit them to the bank, which eventually end up back at the Mint so they can profit.

    Is this fair? That’s up to you to decide. The point is simple:
     
     

    Buy Canadian Copper Pennies: Ebay

     

    Keep your Canadian copper pennies. If you don’t have any, you may wish to buy Canadian copper pennies. Here is a list of Ebay auctions you can explore for buying copper pennies from Canada:


     
     

    Buy Canadian Pennies: Ebay

     

    Don’t forget the basics of supply and demand. There is demand via coin collectors for Canadian pennies. Therefore, even the zinc Canadian pennies and steel Canadian pennies hold numismatic value! Since supply for these little one cent pennies is about to hit zero (meaning no more will be minted in Canada), you may wish to pick up all Canadian pennies. Here is a list of Ebay auctions you can explore for buying Canadian pennies in general:



    Melt Canadian Pennies: Not Yet

     

    Of course, we are not advocating melting Canadian pennies. We are, in fact, saying you should not melt pennies and should not do anything illegal. However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with hoarding Canadian pennies. Once the pennies in Canada have been pulled out of circulation and the melt law surrounding them becomes irrelevant, the laws pertaining to melting pennies is largely thought to be done away with at that point, giving you the ability to cash in big.

     

    Why do People Buy Newer Zinc Pennies?

    Why do People Buy Newer Zinc Pennies?


     

    Zinc Pennies
    What’s so special about these coin bags full of newer zinc pennies? It’s about perspective and experience. To some, these are worthless trinkets because of their metal zinc content. Sort out the older coins and deposit these for face value.

    But is this an accurate assessment? To a Lincoln Cent Collector, the adage of trash to treasure is a close to home truth. While the bullion investors avoid these pennies considering them one-cent trash, the collector finds all sorts of intriguing numismatic value.

    Why do these newer pennies have such great possibilities? The newer the coin, the less hands have touched it, the fewer eyes that analyzed it, and greater possibility that the rarer pennies are out there to be found. Not only that, but newer pennies have a greater chance to be plucked from circulation at near pristine, if not mint state, condition.

    So while some look only for older dates, Lincoln Wheat Cents, and copper bullion, there are many out there with the commendable experience to analyze and pick out the valuable little Lincoln treasures that others merely toss about as one cent coins.

    Take the time to learn about these little one-cent treasures before they disappear into the abyss of inflation.

    1943 Penny

    1943 Penny

     

    1943 Steel Penny


     
     

    This is the 1943 penny you will see. The steel penny of 1943 is made primarily out of steel with a zinc coating. But why was steel used this year? The answer is unfortunate: War.

    During World War II, copper was in such demand for tank shells and ammunition that pennies were made of steel this year. But this is not why most people search for information on the 1943 penny. The real find is actually copper 1943 pennies.

    According to the ANA (American Numismatic Association), there are 40 known 1943 copper alloy pennies in existence. Speculation is these exist due to left over copper blanks still in the minting machinery.

    Copper pennies are worth more in metal value than their face value and are worth collecting in large amounts for investing in copper pennies. See what people are paying for copper pennies.


    But this particular penny is so elusive it trades much higher in value due to its coin collector value. Think you have a 1943 copper penny? The best first test is with a magnet. If it sticks to the magnet, it’s probably a counterfeit as it is most likely made of steel. Be careful not to risk causing damage to your coin if you think it is a legit copy. Even the slightest “ding” can reduce value.

    Another very highly sought after penny is known as the “1909 VDB” penny which, if it came from the San Francisco mint, is even more of a treasured prize.

    Read more: 1909 VDB Lincoln Cent Wheat Penny

    Copper Penny Sorting versus Copper Penny Buying

    Copper Penny Sorting
    versus
    Copper Penny Buying


     

    To sort, or not to sort: copper pennies.

    Copper pennies are worth their weight in copper. In fact, so much so, that the copper value far exceeds the face value of the copper penny. Because of this, people are sorting pennies to pull out the copper ones.

    This article is a guide, not a rule. Take what is presented here as thoughts to help you make your own determination on the best option for you.

    The question here is should you sort pennies for copper or buy them:

     
     

    The Penny Factors

     

    There are a number of factors that go into whether the best way for you is to sort or buy. Not every person is the same. Medical conditions, transportation available, geography, finances, jobs, family, and a number of other factors play a role.

    To simply, we have deemed all these various things and more into variables of a math equation that you can calculate to determine whether sorting or buying is the best route for you. The only way to really do this is to remove the human equation by turning all human factors and non-human factors into the following one term:

    Time.

     
     

    Penny Time

     

    Time is important. Your time is really the only thing you have that is a constant figure to compare all else to. How much time is what changes based on the individual person, and that is what we are going to calculate here by diving into all of the factors that are added together to equal your time.

    When we have accomplished that, your copper penny sorting time is either going to be less than or greater than your copper penny buying time. Logic would dictate that whichever requires less of your time is the route to go.

    You are going to be asked to assign actual numbers to do this equation. If you aren’t sure, time yourself or take your best guess.

    Assumption: We assume you are sorting pennies between copper pennies and zinc pennies to keep the copper cents and that you are doing so mechanically with machinery.

    Another assumption: Calculate time in terms of months. Meaning if you are asked what the total transportation time is then calculate that in terms of how much time you spend monthly on transportation.

    When asked how much time is involved in an activity, assign that time in terms of minutes and hours.

    So let’s begin.

     
     

    Copper Penny Sorting Time

     

    Transportation time – how much time does it take you to get your pennies between the time it takes you to acquire pennies (placing an order online, driving to and from the bank or where ever, filling up your gas tank, waiting in a bank teller line, hauling in bags to your sorting location, etc).

    Geography plays a huge role here because the ratio of zinc pennies to copper pennies changes based on you physical location in the United States.

    You need to also include transportation time to dispose of any pennies you are not keeping (ie: zinc pennies), particularly if you have a pick up location and dump location (meaning you deposit your zinc pennies to a different location taking more time).
     
     

    Equipment time – To sort out copper pennies by any reasonable scale, you need sorting equipment or machinery. This requires cost in purchasing, maintaining, and replacement parts.

    Yes. This is a money number. But time = money. How much time does it take you to make the money you need to buy and upkeep this machinery? That is the time amount you will put here.

    One way to calculate this would be to take the total cost and maintenance cost and divide it by your income source. Hourly wages make this easy. If you are retired, take your retirement income monthly, divide by 4.33 (number of weeks in a month), divide by 40 (assume working 40 hours a week). That gives you an hourly wage to calculate out your time needed in hours to purchase and maintain this machinery.

    Note: Common question we are asked: Isn’t this a one-time expense so it isn’t really a long-term factor and should not be included?

    Answer: Yes and no. Machines break all the time. You cannot make the assumption you will buy one machine and it will just work forever. Therefore, you need to incorporate this figure to be conservative in your equation. The point is to realistically determine numbers here. By being conservative, you are better ensuring you make the right decision.

    If you choose to do the sorting yourself, you can always recalculate this equation based on updated costs involved in machinery and transportation.
     
     

    Sorting Time
     

    How long does it take you to sort coin. This is a tough one as sorting $100 is much different than $1,000 and certainly different than $100,000. You need to choose what your goal is. How much do you want to sort in a given month?

    Pick what is a realistic amount as things always take longer than anticipated in this type of operation.

    Include everything. Examples are: Cracking open rolls, placing coin in machinery, machinery jams, machinery cleaning, fixing errors and having to resort already sorted coin, double sorting if that is done, hand sorting through any of it, bathroom breaks (even washing hands due to handling dirty coin), and any other time taken as a result of doing coin sorting you would not have normally done if you were not doing coin sorting (no matter how insignificant it may seem).

    Depending on how you dispose of coin, you may also need to involve re-rolling coin or however else the receiving location requires your coin to be handled.

     

    Take the total time and there you go. That’s how long it takes you, per month, to sort copper pennies. You’ll notice that sorting time is drastically different between individuals based on geography (how much total pennies do you need to sort to get X amount of copper pennies) and total copper penny goal (how many copper pennies are you actually trying to sort).
     
     
     

    Copper Penny Buying Time

     

    This one is easy to calculate.

    How much money does it cost you, over face value, to buy copper pennies, for the same amount of copper pennies you stated above you were realistically going to sort monthly. Take that cost and divide it by your monthly income turned into an hourly wage. If retired, take your retirement income monthly, divide by 4.33 (number of weeks in a month), divide by 40 (assume working 40 hours a week). That gives you an hourly wage to calculate out your time needed in hours to buy copper pennies.

    Why do we say over face value? Because getting copper pennies to sort still costs face value. Therefore, the face value time number for both sorting and buying are equal and negate themselves, mathematically not being relevant for comparison.

    Yes, you could simply withdraw money from a savings account to buy them, however, the idea is to compare buying versus sorting, so you need to base this on income sources. If you do not have an income source, base your income amount on your previous income source.

    Remember, the amount of hours you calculated is how much extra time you would have to work to buy copper pennies from a cost perspective.

    The extra hours worked could mean having to pick up an extra day of work which means you should also add the time it takes to get to and from work. The idea here is not to take away from your already existing disposable income, but rather what it would cost in time to buy with additional disposable income.
     
     

    The results

     

    Only you know this answer. However, time and time again, it has been proven sorting just is not time efficient. People specialize in the areas they are good at and excel with what they are good at. They become efficient and accomplished because of this. Sure, hobby sorting can be fun. If fun is what you’re going for, that’s fantastic and we wish you the best. This article is on deciding which is more efficient from a time perspective.
     
     

    Health

     

    Take care of yourself. Sorting coin involves lots of repetitive lifting of coin which can get heavy. Coin is also dirty and not only can you get dirt on your hands, but you can literally breathe in excessive dirt due to long exposure of coin sorting. Be safe. Your health is important!
     
     

    Opportunity Cost

     

    The main thing to take away here is opportunity cost. This means when given a choice between only doing either Option 1 or Option 2, you only get to choose one. Therefore, if you choose Option 1, your cost is that you no longer have the opportunity to do Option 2. And vice versa, if you choose Option 2, your cost is you no longer have the opportunity to do Option 1.

    That is why time is a recommended fashion for choosing whether to sort copper pennies or buy copper pennies: Whichever route takes the least time means the less opportunity cost. Or rather, gives you more time to do other things.

    Clearly, the more copper pennies you wish to sort, the vast amount more time it takes to do so. It is plausible that there is an inverse relationship where sorting smaller amounts such as $100 a week may be more beneficial to sort where as sorting thousands upon thousands is not practical.

    After all, time equals money. So if you save time, you’re saving money.
     
     

    Full Disclosure

     

    We sell copper pennies. That means we have a vested interest in you buying copper pennies. That being said, our goal is for you to save money and save time. If you are in the vast minority of people that save both time and money by doing the sorting yourself, then we are happy to encourage you to continue to do what is in your best interest.

    Just keep in mind your goals. If you are looking to seriously invest and prosper on copper pennies in numbers reaching over $100,000 then it may no longer be realistic to be able to personally sort and store copper pennies. At that point, buying may truly be your best option.

    After all, we specialize in copper pennies and therefore, our ability to sort and process is very efficiently and extremely well priced in the market. Why compete when you can join.

     
     

    Bins of Copper Pennies

     
     

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