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The Three Multi-Values of Pennies
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Intrinsic Value
Currency Value
Numismatic (Collector) Value
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Intrinsic Value
All forms of currencies have intrinsic value. This means the actual physical monetary value of the item itself. A penny is made of metal. Therefore, it has metal value based on the metal content. For example, a copper penny is made of 95% copper 5% zinc and weighs approximately 3.11 grams.
This means a copper penny holds 2.9545 grams of copper and 0.1555 grams of zinc. Of course, wear and tear as well as various anomalies can change this figure. But the point to make is that this is a physical tangible value associated with the penny.
Currency Value
A penny also holds a currency value. This value is one-cent or 0.01 of a dollar. The purpose of this value is its trade value and use in a marketplace as a medium of exchange in place of a barter economy. A currency value is very subjective in a global marketplace when incorporating exchange rates and other factors.
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It is good to note that currencies like the dollar are heavily devalued due to mass printings of more money into the money system. This means the intrinsic value bolsters compared to the currency value from the impact of inflation.
Numismatic (Collector) Value
Finally, a penny holds coin collector numismatic value. This often has to do with rarities of coins, makes, quantity of units produced, models, years, various errors, and other factors.
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Penny Value Conclusions
What’s the point? Simple. You can convert these three value terms into three different values:
Intrinsic = Investment Value
Currency = Back up Value
Numismatic (Collector) = Supply & Demand Value
Metals are useful to society, and have a historic proof of keeping up with inflation at a minimum, often outpacing inflation. What does this mean? Your pennies are devaluing from inflation because of their face value but increasing in value because their metal value is not decreasing with inflation. While everyone else keeps their money in the digital world of banking, you are holding physical value that is increasing at a faster pace than money sitting in a zero percent-to-low-percent interest bank account.
Worst case scenario, you still have currency value to fall back on as a back up plan. If the metal value breaks historical statistics and turns the other way around, you still have a currency value, proving that unlike a bet in the stock market, your pennies won’t reach a value of zero.
Finally, pennies will be eliminated from circulation at some point. Every country has done it but the United States. Therefore, once it happens, the total quantity of pennies in circulation will drastically be reduced. Demand, however, for coin collectors will almost certainly stay the same. As a result: Supply drops. Demand holds steady. Value goes up.
That sums up the three multi-values of the pennies. Thoughts? Feel welcome to leave a comment below.
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Copper Penny Sorting
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Copper Penny Buying
To sort, or not to sort: copper pennies.
Copper pennies are worth their weight in copper. In fact, so much so, that the copper value far exceeds the face value of the copper penny. Because of this, people are sorting pennies to pull out the copper ones.
This article is a guide, not a rule. Take what is presented here as thoughts to help you make your own determination on the best option for you.
The question here is should you sort pennies for copper or buy them:
The Penny Factors
There are a number of factors that go into whether the best way for you is to sort or buy. Not every person is the same. Medical conditions, transportation available, geography, finances, jobs, family, and a number of other factors play a role.
To simply, we have deemed all these various things and more into variables of a math equation that you can calculate to determine whether sorting or buying is the best route for you. The only way to really do this is to remove the human equation by turning all human factors and non-human factors into the following one term:
Time.
Penny Time
Time is important. Your time is really the only thing you have that is a constant figure to compare all else to. How much time is what changes based on the individual person, and that is what we are going to calculate here by diving into all of the factors that are added together to equal your time.
When we have accomplished that, your copper penny sorting time is either going to be less than or greater than your copper penny buying time. Logic would dictate that whichever requires less of your time is the route to go.
You are going to be asked to assign actual numbers to do this equation. If you aren’t sure, time yourself or take your best guess.
Assumption: We assume you are sorting pennies between copper pennies and zinc pennies to keep the copper cents and that you are doing so mechanically with machinery.
Another assumption: Calculate time in terms of months. Meaning if you are asked what the total transportation time is then calculate that in terms of how much time you spend monthly on transportation.
When asked how much time is involved in an activity, assign that time in terms of minutes and hours.
So let’s begin.
Copper Penny Sorting Time
Transportation time - how much time does it take you to get your pennies between the time it takes you to acquire pennies (placing an order online, driving to and from the bank or where ever, filling up your gas tank, waiting in a bank teller line, hauling in bags to your sorting location, etc).
Geography plays a huge role here because the ratio of zinc pennies to copper pennies changes based on you physical location in the United States.
You need to also include transportation time to dispose of any pennies you are not keeping (ie: zinc pennies), particularly if you have a pick up location and dump location (meaning you deposit your zinc pennies to a different location taking more time).
Equipment time - To sort out copper pennies by any reasonable scale, you need sorting equipment or machinery. This requires cost in purchasing, maintaining, and replacement parts.
Yes. This is a money number. But time = money. How much time does it take you to make the money you need to buy and upkeep this machinery? That is the time amount you will put here.
One way to calculate this would be to take the total cost and maintenance cost and divide it by your income source. Hourly wages make this easy. If you are retired, take your retirement income monthly, divide by 4.33 (number of weeks in a month), divide by 40 (assume working 40 hours a week). That gives you an hourly wage to calculate out your time needed in hours to purchase and maintain this machinery.
Note: Common question we are asked: Isn’t this a one-time expense so it isn’t really a long-term factor and should not be included?
Answer: Yes and no. Machines break all the time. You cannot make the assumption you will buy one machine and it will just work forever. Therefore, you need to incorporate this figure to be conservative in your equation. The point is to realistically determine numbers here. By being conservative, you are better ensuring you make the right decision.
If you choose to do the sorting yourself, you can always recalculate this equation based on updated costs involved in machinery and transportation.
Sorting Time
How long does it take you to sort coin. This is a tough one as sorting $100 is much different than $1,000 and certainly different than $100,000. You need to choose what your goal is. How much do you want to sort in a given month?
Pick what is a realistic amount as things always take longer than anticipated in this type of operation.
Include everything. Examples are: Cracking open rolls, placing coin in machinery, machinery jams, machinery cleaning, fixing errors and having to resort already sorted coin, double sorting if that is done, hand sorting through any of it, bathroom breaks (even washing hands due to handling dirty coin), and any other time taken as a result of doing coin sorting you would not have normally done if you were not doing coin sorting (no matter how insignificant it may seem).
Depending on how you dispose of coin, you may also need to involve re-rolling coin or however else the receiving location requires your coin to be handled.
Take the total time and there you go. That’s how long it takes you, per month, to sort copper pennies. You’ll notice that sorting time is drastically different between individuals based on geography (how much total pennies do you need to sort to get X amount of copper pennies) and total copper penny goal (how many copper pennies are you actually trying to sort).
Copper Penny Buying Time
This one is easy to calculate.
How much money does it cost you, over face value, to buy copper pennies, for the same amount of copper pennies you stated above you were realistically going to sort monthly. Take that cost and divide it by your monthly income turned into an hourly wage. If retired, take your retirement income monthly, divide by 4.33 (number of weeks in a month), divide by 40 (assume working 40 hours a week). That gives you an hourly wage to calculate out your time needed in hours to buy copper pennies.
Why do we say over face value? Because getting copper pennies to sort still costs face value. Therefore, the face value time number for both sorting and buying are equal and negate themselves, mathematically not being relevant for comparison.
Yes, you could simply withdraw money from a savings account to buy them, however, the idea is to compare buying versus sorting, so you need to base this on income sources. If you do not have an income source, base your income amount on your previous income source.
Remember, the amount of hours you calculated is how much extra time you would have to work to buy copper pennies from a cost perspective.
The extra hours worked could mean having to pick up an extra day of work which means you should also add the time it takes to get to and from work. The idea here is not to take away from your already existing disposable income, but rather what it would cost in time to buy with additional disposable income.
The results
Only you know this answer. However, time and time again, it has been proven sorting just is not time efficient. People specialize in the areas they are good at and excel with what they are good at. They become efficient and accomplished because of this. Sure, hobby sorting can be fun. If fun is what you’re going for, that’s fantastic and we wish you the best. This article is on deciding which is more efficient from a time perspective.
Health
Take care of yourself. Sorting coin involves lots of repetitive lifting of coin which can get heavy. Coin is also dirty and not only can you get dirt on your hands, but you can literally breathe in excessive dirt due to long exposure of coin sorting. Be safe. Your health is important!
Opportunity Cost
The main thing to take away here is opportunity cost. This means when given a choice between only doing either Option 1 or Option 2, you only get to choose one. Therefore, if you choose Option 1, your cost is that you no longer have the opportunity to do Option 2. And vice versa, if you choose Option 2, your cost is you no longer have the opportunity to do Option 1.
That is why time is a recommended fashion for choosing whether to sort copper pennies or buy copper pennies: Whichever route takes the least time means the less opportunity cost. Or rather, gives you more time to do other things.
Clearly, the more copper pennies you wish to sort, the vast amount more time it takes to do so. It is plausible that there is an inverse relationship where sorting smaller amounts such as $100 a week may be more beneficial to sort where as sorting thousands upon thousands is not practical.
After all, time equals money. So if you save time, you’re saving money.
Full Disclosure
We sell copper pennies. That means we have a vested interest in you buying copper pennies. That being said, our goal is for you to save money and save time. If you are in the vast minority of people that save both time and money by doing the sorting yourself, then we are happy to encourage you to continue to do what is in your best interest.
Just keep in mind your goals. If you are looking to seriously invest and prosper on copper pennies in numbers reaching over $100,000 then it may no longer be realistic to be able to personally sort and store copper pennies. At that point, buying may truly be your best option.
After all, we specialize in copper pennies and therefore, our ability to sort and process is very efficiently and extremely well priced in the market. Why compete when you can join.
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Invest in Copper Below Market Price
Have you ever read a news article on precious metals, like gold and silver, and metals, like copper, and wonder how successful people are buying them up as great investments? I’m sure you have. The key to remember is that the large-time investors securely buy commodities like gold, silver, and copper at very competitive pricing that is not generally available to the general public. This is due to a wealth of networking and connections.
So how do you do what they do so you can make money too? Find a way to buy commodities below their price!
Easier said than done. But in this case, it’s actually quite easy to do with U.S. copper pennies.
First, and foremost, let’s state the facts. Copper pennies are made of 95% copper and 5% zinc, minted 1982 and older. Every copper penny is worth more than its face value because of its copper metal value.
Second, and pricing-wise important, copper pennies are available to purchase below copper price for a limited time. Here’s why:
It is illegal to melt the penny or export the penny. This is because the United States government knows the value of the copper penny exceeds the face value and, if legal, would be melted down, causing a shortage of pennies in the currency market. The result would be a need to mint more pennies, which currently costs 2.41 cents to create as of 2012. But most important, this is the best news possible for copper penny investor buyers.
Illegal to melt may intrigue people as to how it is the best news and how they can get the value out of their copper penny if they can’t actually turn the copper penny into copper. To answer this, one may simply point to gold coins and silver coins. Gold and silver coins are traded above market price without ever being melted down. This is because of a number of factors, but the most important factor is Market recognition.
Market Recognition
If you see a silver bar, how do you know the purity and if it is not fraudulent? You’d have to be able to conduct tests, which the average consumer does not have the tools necessary to accomplish or desire to learn how. This means the ability to recognize the silver bar as being what it actually is may be difficult for the average person making the general market recognition poor.
A coin minted by the U.S. Mint is easily recognized as such based on its size, weight, and design on the front and back. The content of the coin can be determined by reading the year the coin was minted. Even if a consumer does not know what years are silver, there are hundreds of sources for a consumer to look up the date based on the coin denomination and model to verify its silver content (if any). You will also know the quality (purity) of the coin is correct as the U.S. mint is required to create coins consistently.
Market recognition means consumers can easily determine the value and purity of the coin making coins an ideal metal trading medium and a very high value market recognition item. This is the same for copper pennies as they are also easily recognized as a penny with a date to very the metal make of the coin.
Advantages: Illegal to Melt
Back to the conversation on why being illegal to melt pennies is the best news for copper penny investor buyers. Being illegal to melt makes the current trading price of copper pennies below copper market price. This means you can pay less money for a coin that is intrinsically worth more money. Yes, you cannot get your money back right away. But you’re reading this because you want to know how to preserve your hard earned money which means you aren’t looking for an exit strategy immediately.
Even if you needed an exit strategy, copper penny sellers will buy your copper pennies or you can always trade on the general market as there are a number of people that do buy copper pennies. Though the real facts here are that you are looking to preserve your wealth and make a significant amount of money in the long-run based on a unique commodities market opportunity, not just turn a quick buck. So exit strategies are obvious once it is legal to melt and you can fully capitalize on your copper penny investment.
And let’s not forget, a copper penny is a penny which is worth one cent. That means, unlike the stock market, you have a base floor value of your copper investment that your copper pennies cannot fall below.
Why Invest in Copper Pennies
So why buy copper pennies now, while it is illegal to melt? Because no one is going to sell you copper pennies below copper price once it is legal to melt. This is true not just when it is legal to melt, but as soon as it becomes publicly known that copper pennies have a end time line (ie: eliminated as a currency which is being discussed in Congress).
It is either now or never. So take your pick, do your research, and find out if copper pennies is the right investment for you to break into the copper commodities market below copper price. Beat out everyone else to a niche market. After all, in the 1970s, silver coins were in the exact same situation (metal value beginning to exceed their face value). Now, a silver coin is worth over 2000% of its face value. Back then, it was a new niche market. If the saying goes of “History repeats” then you know you’re in for a great deal when buying copper pennies below copper market price.
If you have specific needs, or want to contact us to discuss large-scale copper penny investments, feel welcome to contact us at (302) 265-3677 or email us at coincollectingenterprises@gmail.com
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How to Make Money off of Copper Pennies
You can make money off of pennies. Specifically copper pennies. This is because the copper penny (made of 95% copper and 5% zinc) is worth over 2x in its metal value than its face value.
Many people don’t think about the penny, but the truth is, pennies have distinct advantages as an investment that are unique to themselves. There are many articles written on this site about copper pennies, copper nickels, copper in general, and more.
If you aren’t sure about pricing, it may be very advantageous to search copper penny auctions and pricings via Ebay. Here is a link to a handy website which will open a new window in your browser:
Ebay Copper Penny Auctions
Now that you have an idea of pricing possibilities, here is how to make money off of copper pennies:
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Understand Pennies
Copper in Pennies Weighs More than Face Value
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| Pennies. Small, tiny little coins that appear worthless to the average person. Pennies are so under appreciated that they get tossed on the ground and people walk by without a second thought. A copper penny is worth more than its face value because of its copper metal content (a copper penny is made of 95% copper and 5% zinc). This means that the actual physical weight of each individual penny makes that penny worth a weight value in metal.
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The metal value of copper for each penny makes the copper penny very valuable in large quantities. The U.S. isn’t the first country to have a coin become worth a lot due to their metal value. Many countries have eliminated their lowest cent value. How does money become so high in cost to produce? Inflation and massive printing of currency is just a start of the problem.
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Devalued Dollar = Inflation = Valuable Pennies
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Copper pennies really hold a great value. This is because the United States dollar is heavily devalued. In fact, the dollar is so devalued, most people do not realize how much less purchasing power the dollar has since its inception. Sure, we buy things. We sell things. It’s how trade works. We also import and export goods from an international |
perspective. But have you ever considered how inflation plays a role? Click the dollar devaluation chart on the left to enlarge it. This illustrates the purchasing power of the dollar since it’s inception in 1913. Yes, the dollar was around before that in various forms. 1913 was the year the Federal Reserve came into power, so that is a rather critical date to look at in terms of control of our money, as in control over the Dollar. Purchasing power is simply the amount of real tangible goods a dollar can buy.
The dollar is worth but a fraction of what it once was. A penny is 1/100th of the value of a dollar. If the dollar has become a fraction of what it once was, a penny is a fraction of the fraction. So to summarize the point: the price of the US dollars is going down, so the value of copper gets inflated. This is why the penny is worth a lot. Because the penny’s face value has become worth so little due to the devaluing of the dollar, that the weight in copper of the copper penny has become extremely valuable, that, and commodities in in huge demand. Particularly gold, silver, and copper.
That is one of the main points why copper pennies have become so valuable. Between commodity prices on the rise and the dollar on the fall, copper pennies have become very worthwhile. In fact, the worse inflation gets and more devalued the dollar becomes, the better the price outlook on copper pennies becomes.
In short: Think Quantitative Easing (QE1, QE2, “The Twist” & now QE3 AKA Quantitative Infinite)
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Size Matters
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The more you have, the more the investment is worth. But what is considered a lot of pennies? Even ten pounds is a great way to start.
Of course, ten pounds of copper pennies is more of a starter package of an investment. After all, |
you want to make serious money, and to make serious money, you’ll need to find the right portion of your financial portfolio to put in copper pennies. Even if you don’t have a financial portfolio, you can still begin to build up a copper penny investing stockpile. Something is better than nothing. Even if you buy $100 of copper pennies then that’s a |
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great head start. Investing in $1,000 is an ideal way to start a financial portfolio diversification into copper pennies. Eventually, you can work to build a huge stockpile. Though the life expectancy of the penny continuing to be minted is anticipated to not last too long. So invest in copper pennies while you still have time to get a head start on everyone else that did not buy any copper pennies. Go at your own pace, at the amount that is right for you.
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Acquire Pennies
Get Copper Pennies
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This may seem silly, but if you want to make money off of copper pennies, you need to get copper pennies. Find pennies on the ground, sort for copper pennies yourself, or go the efficient route of buying copper pennies from us. If you want to make money from copper pennies, your best bet is to make sure you have them. Buy copper pennies and you are on your way to making money from copper penny investing.
Efficiency is king in the copper penny investing world. It’s a balance between time management:cost:happiness. You need to find the most cost efficient manner for you that balances the amount of time spent getting your copper pennies, the cost involved in getting the copper pennies (which includes the value of your time spent), and how happy you are with those figures. For every individual, this figure is different. Most people find it much more efficient and effective to simply buy copper pennies from us.
For those that prefer to sort their own copper pennies, we offer an intermediate solution. You can buy sealed penny bags directly from our website to your door. These are the exact same penny bags we get and sort for copper bullion from. The bank the penny bags come from may differ as our sourced coin comes from many different banks. This means you’ll have a larger encompassing reach to acquire pennies from as you’ll benefit from the wide variety of our coin sourcing. We send the penny bags to you sealed, unsorted and unsearched so you never know what goodies could be inside.
The real key to reiterate and focus on is time. Your time is valuable. Everyone is different and you must make sure you are maximizing your return for your time in how you value your time. No one else can determine this but we do offer an article below to assist with helping you monetize time.
Read more: Guide: Copper Penny Sorting versus Copper Penny Buying
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Hoard Pennies
Should I Hold onto Copper Pennies
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| Yes. If you want to hedge against inflation. Commodities are a great way to make a profit while outpacing dollar value drops and rising inflationary trends. Gold and silver are expensive. Copper pennies are cheap. All three are commodities. So why pay extra for a commodity when you can invest in real |
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commodities below copper price cost? Copper pennies are very durable tangible assets. They’re just as strong and recognizable as .999 copper bullion bars, but backed by the United States currency and significantly cheaper copper to invest in. Even if your house burnt down, your hundred dollar bills would burn up, but the copper pennies would survive. Perhaps a little blackened, but the copper would be intact. Holding onto copper pennies is a great way to secure your wealth in commodities while maintaining a security against failed currencies.
You can invest in .999 pure copper bars or .999 copper scrap for short term copper holdings as an industrial commercial grade base metal. Great for the short run usually holds higher premiums. Medium to long-term holdings generally have much lower premiums, thus the price difference between forms of copper in addition to purity.
The longer you hold onto your copper penny investment, the greater copper price should outpace inflation and the better your ROI (return on investment) will be. Copper spot price drives copper penny price, so holding onto copper pennies means you make money. Depending on how economic events unfold, there are other advantages to holding onto copper pennies to make money that most people do not think about. One such event is currency failure and hyperinflation (read more: Copper Penny Hoarders).
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Conquer with Pennies
Make Money off Failed Currencies
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Failed currencies are not discussed to be scary, but rather investment facts to anticipate. In fact, anticipating economic disasters is a fact of necessity in the life of investing. As a prudent investor to secure ones wealth, one must prepare for possible outcomes. One currency in the news these days on the possibility of failure is the Euro.
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If the Euro collapses, that doesn’t mean anarchy and the complete collapse of society. It means that a new currency (or multiple) would be needed as a medium of exchange.
What is a medium of exchange? Simply a well recognized and accepted concept used to make trade easier (these days in the form of currency). In the past, objects ranging from gold, sticks, rocks, to even chocolate were used in various places throughout the world. Currency is used because it’s easy. After all, currency is just simply the ability to sell something of value to buy something of value while being easily transferable from person to person. This is the alternative to having a barter economy. And if the Euro could collapse, who is to say the U.S. dollar can’t collapse? |
| After all, the dollar is considered the world currency. This means that to trade in certain goods (like crude oil) countries must buy dollars rather than using their own currency. Therefore, there is enough dollars printed to be utilized not just by people of the United States, but countries throughout the world. That
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means supply meets world demand for dollars. If the dollar is not used as a world currency, there would be world supply for dollars with only the demand of people in the United States plus those buying U.S. goods in terms of demand for dollars. This would create a huge imbalance between supply and demand. Basic economics would suggest the price of dollars would plummet. The demand for dollars would drop so suddenly, it could cause a huge devaluing spike in the value of the dollar, causing a potential attack by hyperinflation on our economy.
So if a currency collapses, your best investment is an investment that let’s you hold onto the value of your wealth when transferring from the old currency to the new currency. While everyone else is holding onto dollars which have their value destroyed through hyperinflation, you’ll be holding onto copper pennies, a commodity investment in copper. To create stability in an economy, a new currency will have to be distributed at a fair ratio to replace the old currency for holders of the old currency. If everyone else trades at a 1:1 ratio (old to new), then you want a 1:2 ratio (1 old to 2 new).
That means you’d double your wealth in comparison to everyone else. Will copper pennies do that? Answers currently point towards copper pennies definitely helping with a big Yes. Hyperinflation comes about from too much supply of currency (read coins can defeat hyperinflation). Therefore, a reduction in supply of the new currency would be important. So for example, you’d have a ratio more like 5:1 or even 20:1 (old currency face value to new currency face value). This would get prices under control. However, you’d have copper pennies, and instantly be able to sell the copper for the new currency at the well ratio’d cost of the old currency.
Hindsight is 20, 20. But having something useful to society is a great way to start. The key to wealth preservation is not always about making money. Sometimes it is as simple as not losing as much money as everyone else. After all, if you hold still, and everyone else loses money, you’ve gained wealth.
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Capitalize on Pennies
When Should I sell my Copper Pennies
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At the peak of an upswing economic market. When the economy gets tough, the tough should hoard their copper pennies. Copper is a very market economy-driven metal. In the long run, copper is a heavily demanded metal that pushes copper price above the devaluing of the dollar and inflationary effects on society. But when any economy is bearish, copper tends to be bearish).
So when the economy is in a slump, you should buy copper pennies because the copper penny investing cost will be lower. When the economy becomes bullish, copper prices tend to spike.
| Since copper pennies are essentially copper bullion as a copper investment, that means the price of investing in copper pennies rises with a rising copper price. This can be seen with just about any commodity, one example being when the price of crude oil rises, so does gas price to fill up your car. When gas prices are high, a buyer pays more. The catch is so does the gas company which has to refill the oil tanks.
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For you, the catch with copper pennies as an investment is the other way around. You buy your copper pennies ahead of time in large investment quantities when copper prices are low and bearish. Then the easiest hard part: have patience. Wait for the dollar to continue to get devalued. Wait for the economy to pick up. Patience is difficult, but necessary. Once the economy bulls, copper bulls, and you can sell whenever you wish (read about How & Why to Invest in Copper Bullion).
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